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This was a show that I had greatly anticipated for a long time. Opeth and Dream Theater are easily two of my favorite bands, so when I saw them both on the same bill many months ago, I was pretty excited. Both bands put on great live shows as well, so I knew I wouldn't be disappointed. I made the trek down to Detroit with my dad, Jessica, and Mike.

The first band to play was 3. I thought that we'd get there with plenty of time to see the opening bands, but we didn't. We only caught the last part of one of their songs. It sounded pretty good though, from the five minutes or so that we heard. They had a two drummer setup going, and they were seriously beating on the skins. I would have liked to see more of their set, but alas, it wasn't meant to be. Grade: N/A

Between the Buried and Me played second. I hadn't really been exposed to them in great depth, and for some reason I had the impression that they were going to be another dripping-with-testosterone type band (like Throwdown or Bury Your Dead), but I was pleasantly surprised that they weren't. They do have the crappy barking vocals that is typical for a hardcore/metalcore band, but their music is way more complex. These guys can flat out play, and they pull a ton of different musical styles into their sound. It makes for a pretty cool experience. They only had a half hour so on stage, and they played all of two distinct songs. They wasted no time with blathering between songs either... they pretty much stopped only to announce the name of the second song and get a drink of water, then started playing again. They definitely merited further attention, which is why I bought three of their CDs yesterday. Grade: A

Opeth is the band that I looked forward to seeing the most out of the four. I've only seen them once before (compared to Jessica's ten[!]), and that was an abbreviated set at last year's Gigantour, where they were only able to play four songs. They ended up getting around an hour on stage this time around, and were able to play six songs - Master's Apprentices, In My Time of Need, Baying of the Hounds, Heir Apparent, Wreath, and The Drapery Falls. They had a pretty good sampling of songs from their newer albums, but none from the older four albums, which kind of disappoints me. "Still Life" and "My Arms, Your Hearse" are my favorite albums of theirs, and with two shows under my belt, I've yet to see them play any songs from those albums live. Oh well... there's always next time! Mikael Akerfeldt does a pretty good job of making the breaks between songs interesting as well. He's always got something funny to say, and it's pretty obvious to me that he genuinely enjoys putting on a show for the crowd. Grade: A

Dream Theater closed out the show in the way that only they can - with authority. This was the fourth time that my dad and I saw Dream Theater together, and they've never once disappointed. I've blathered on and on about how good they are in previous posts about them, so I'll try to save it this time around. This was the first time, however, that I saw them without having heard their most recent release. Their previous release ("Octavarium"), seemed kind of tired to me, and didn't really grab my interest much at all. Because of that, I didn't run out and grab their newest ("Systematic Chaos") when it came out last year. I probably should have grabbed it sooner. They played a few tunes from it, and they were pretty good. They opened the set with an instrumental passage from one of those songs, and I was really digging it. Their set list was expansive, and pretty typical for the shows I've seen. They played a good sampling from their albums, and played most of the first act from "Scenes from a Memory". They didn't play "Home," which kind of pissed me off since it is one of my favorite songs of theirs, but hey, you can't win 'em all.

One neat thing they did for this tour was turning something that is typically incredibly lame into something totally awesome. Jordan Rudess (the keyboardist) played a key-tar. Yep, the dreaded 80's pop instrument. In this case though, it was sweet because it gave him the opportunity to step out from behind is mammoth keyboard rig and get up close and personal with the fans like the other band members get to do. He mostly used it in extended "improvised" musical passages that break out of their normal song structures, and used his mobility to add a more visual flare to the frequent traded/harmonized leads that he does with John Petrucci in so many of their songs. I laughed when I first saw it, but it really did add a pretty cool element to their performance, which was already top notch.

The only downer in the show was that they played one of their new songs (I think - I didn't recognize it) for far too long, and it totally slowed their momentum. It was a slow piece of music, and it seemed to go on FOR EVER. Otherwise, they were phenomenal as always. Grade: A

I've talked about Meshuggah once or twice here, and it's pretty safe to say that I'm a fan. Their sound is abrasive - scratch that - caustic to most ears, but I love it. There's so much musical skill in that band that's its not even funny. They've laid siege to my last.fm profile over the past few months, and for good reason. They rule.

So does this kid. Apparently the band held some sort of competition to see who could play one of their new songs ("Bleed") the best on drums, and this 14 year old kid won.

I've been playing guitar for more than 2/3 of this kid's life, and I've achieved nowhere near the mastery this kid displays. Congrats Zach Schiermann, you rule.

Addendum: For whatever reason, I feel like making mention of this. For the song "Rational Gaze," which is one of my favorite 'of the moment' songs, Meshuggah plays on 8 string gutars, tuned to F. Yes, F. One half-step short of a full octave below a normal guitar tuning. Each guitarist is practically playing a bass. Insanity. Delicious auditory insanity.

In some of the best music news I've heard in a long while, Jon Schaffer recently announced that Matt Barlow is rejoining Iced Earth. I have nothing against Tim Owens whatsoever. He's a great vocalist. As far as I am concerned, however, Iced Earth is not complete without Matt Barlow on vocals. They are once again whole.

Over the past few weeks I've been quite the "consumer whore," as Gene would say. With my recent transition back to bachelor status and a nice raise at work, I've had a lot more cash laying around. Because of this, I decided to splurge on some music that's caught my attention. Over said few weeks, I've picked up three albums by Amorphis, two by Meshuggah, and one each by Megadeth, Killswitch Engage, Demiricous, and Iced Earth.

Out of all of the albums I picked up, the Iced Earth album ("Framing Armageddon") was the only one I had any plans on picking up. It's the first half of a sci-fi-ish narrative Jon Schaffer has been brewing up for some years now. He laid the foundation of the story quite a while back with the "Something Wicked" trilogy, and things have come to fruition. I was kind of thrown off by the style of the album. It has a lot of the signature Iced Earth elements like Jon Schaffer's robotic-arm triplet-riffing and a strong vocal presence, but the music has a distinctly different feel in many places. I'm not saying it's bad, but its not what I expected out of Iced Earth. Since the story is divded into two parts on separate CD releases, it's my guess that the first CD is a more subdued lead-in, kind of the calm before the storm. We'll see once the second half is released I guess.

I'm really digging the two Nordic components of my purchases - Amorphis and Meshuggah. The former used to be much more of a doom/deah metal band, but they've expanded on the typical musical palette of those genres greatly and incorporated clean vocals and an assortment of typically non-metal instruments (such as saxophones, flutes, and sitars). The result is a very cool blending of styles, and it's quite pleasure to listen to. Meshuggah, on the other hand, could probably be quite painful to listen to if you weren't into their particular way of doing things. They're abrasive, intense, and their compositional style is downright weird. The current last.fm description probably says it better than I ever could.

Among the band's most recognizable qualities are lead guitar player Fredrik Thordendal's abrasive, chaotic and dischordant solos, singer Jens Kidman's vocals, which resemble manic screams and shouts; the churning, dissonant rhythm guitars and the polymetric drum beats. In a typical Meshuggah song, drummer Tomas Haake plays two separate rhythms: a standard 4/4 beat with his hands, and a completely different metrical subdivision with his feet. The guitars mostly follow the bass drum work, creating an awkwardly pulsating rhythmic pattern to work as the basis of the song.

To give an example, the main riff of the song "New Millennium Cyanide Christ" from their 1998 album Chaosphere follows the aforementioned blueprint. Haake beats a rather slow 4/4 rhythm with his hands, while the bass drums and guitars play a repetitive 23/16 rhythm pattern on top of it. As the subdivided pattern is repeated, the pattern's accents shift to different beats on each repetition. After repeating the 23/16 pattern five times, a shorter 13/16 pattern is played once. These patterns sum up to 128 16th notes, which equals exactly 8 measures in 4/4 meter.

Speaking of "New Millenium Cyanide Christ" - its music video has to be one of the funniest I've ever seen. A band air-guitaring to their own song on their tour bus. Genius idea. Anyway, I digress. Dispite its chaotic nature, I find their stuff quite easy to work to. I found myself getting quite a bit done the other day when I was listening to it at work. Strange.

The remaining three albums have been outshined by the aforementioned works, but I'll listen to them more eventually. The new Megadeth CD ("United Abominations") is pretty good. I've come to expect their newer stuff to be much more hit-and-miss than their defining works, and this is no different really. There are some pretty fine moments on the CD, and some others that are less stellar. Overall, I'd have to say that its more consistently better than its predecessor ("The System Has Failed"), though. I'm completely in love with Demiricous' style. A lot of people seem to dog them because they sound a lot like Slayer, but what's so bad about that? They have certain aspects that sound similar, but overall I think there's enough differences to keep them from sounding completely derivative. They've got a new album coming out in a few weeks, which probably means my trend of CD purchases won't stop soon. The Killswitch Engage CD I picked up has really been eclipsed by all the other stuff I've picked up. I'll listen to it more, I swear!

It was a dark and stormy night.... Er, wait. It was a cold and stormy night.... Nah, that's not right either. It was a cold and windy night... Now we're cookin. It was certainly cold and windy, but I didn't care much since four of my favorite bands were going to share the same stage. I went with a few guys from work, Gene and Nick, and their buddy Aaron. We all made the pilgrimage to Pine Knob, one of my favorite spots to check out a show.

The four lesser-known bands that opened the show were all decent-to-good, the best being Overkill. They've been around for a long time from what I gather, and easily had the largest following of the opening four. They brought an old-school metal sound into the mix, with a lot of New York attitude. A huge sod fight also broke out on the lawn during their set. I can't remember if it was as spectacular as the one that took place during the Jerry Cantrell/Metallica show I saw at the Knob in '98, but it was a sight nonetheless. It also got old pretty quickly, but the teenager types thought it was a riot to pelt the people further down the hill with tufts of sod. I didn't think it was all that fun, but I remembering having a lot better time back in the day when I was the one throwing the grass. I guess grass-throwing loses its appeal with age.

Arch Enemy was the first of the larger bands to play. With eight bands playing, even the bigger bands had pretty abbreviated sets. AE probably played a good 45 minutes I would imagine. They played a good mix of songs, and the crowd was enjoying it, mostly because of Angela Gossow, their singer. Yep, she's hot. And her vocals would scare small children. Both are good qualities for a woman fronting a metal band. Given that they could only play for 45 minutes, they made the best of it. Definitely a good showing. Grade: A

Opeth was up next. They were the band I wanted to see most, by far. I had seen the other three big bands there at least once, but I hadn't seen Opeth yet. They made the most of their 45 minutes as well... by playing four songs. Opeth songs tend to be quite long, to say the least. They opened up with "Ghost of Perdition," followed by "Windowpane," "The Leper Affinity," and "Deliverance." It was a pretty good mix considering the curcumstances, but I really wish they had another fifteen minutes so they could have fit another song in there. Hearing something like "Blackwater Park" or "Serenity Painted Death" probably would have forced an accident in my pants. I was cracking up a decent amount during their set though. There were quite a few people there that knew Opeth and their style, but there were also a bunch that didn't. They were easily identified by the "WTF?" looks on their face whenever Opeth would drop into a clean section of a song, or pretty much through all of "Windowpane." These sections don't exactly fit in a stereotypical metal show. I don't care though - Opeth rules. The only bad thing about their set is that one of the guitars was barely audible, which made the songs sound pretty funny in places. Grade: A-

Lamb of God occupied the next-to-last slot, and because of it, they had a longer set, probably on the order of an hour and a half. They're a force to be reckoned with nowadays, and it was evident as soon as they came out. They showed up Slayer when I saw them together a few months back, and they were aiming to claim this show as their own as well. They easily had the tightest and most well-mixed sound of all the bands that played, and they weren't taking prisoners either. They played quite a few older songs, including my personal Lamb of God favorite, "Vigil." They also played a good three or four songs off the new album "Sacrament." They were on throughout their whole set, and the crowd was loving it. They definitely achieved their goals and stole the show. Grade: A

Gigantour is Dave Mustaine's baby, so it's natural that Megadeth headlined the show. This was my fifth time seeing Megadeth, but sadly, it was probably the worst show I saw them put on. I'm not sure why, but Dave Mustaine just wasn't on. He seemed visibly agitated for the first couple songs, walking off to the sides of the stage to talk to stage hands between songs and during long instrumental breaks. It may have been due to time restrictions, because he made a point of announcing that they had to rush through their set due to the hard kurfew present at Pine Knob. In any case, he just wasn't on his game. His vocals were pretty weak through most of the songs. He sings with a few distinct styles, and it didn't seem like he was hitting any of them. The mix was also really bad. The vocals and drums were noticiably quiet, while the guitars were way too loud. I like loud guitars as much as the next guy, but they shouldn't drown out the rest of the band. The set list was pretty strong, and they played a new song off the album they're releasing next year. It sounded pretty good. Not "Rust In Peace"-era Megadeth good, but good nonetheless. Grade: B

I've been pretty busy lately, which is one of the reasons I haven't written about this show yet. The other is the fact that I've been pretty lazy with the website. Not a good formula for timely posting. Oh well.

I was anticipating this show a good deal, since Clutch is one of my favorite bands of late, and I'd get to see them in a pretty intimate setting - the Temple Club in Lansing. I would say that the Temple club could hold maybe a thousand people at most, which is pretty small on the grand scheme of things. I went with a buddy from work, Gene, and bumped into Bryan, a former co-worker, as well.

The first band to play was Year Long Disaster. They were a solid three piece hard rock band with a lot of energy. Gene and I were a little worried when we heard them while waiting in line, but they grew on us as their set progressed. They seemed to have a lot of early hard rock/metal influences in their sound, like Motorhead and Judas Priest, so it wasn't too hard for me to like. I'd definitely say they were worth another listen. Grade: B

Next up was The Bellrays. They were a bit less in my ballpark style-wise, but their set was a lot of fun. They seemed like a great opening band, because their set was really energetic and they were devoted to getting the crowd pumped up for the headliners. I really don't know how to classify their sound, but I think it's pretty safe to say that they were a straight-ahead rock band with a certain amount of punk influence musically. In any case, they were decent, even if not completely in my wheelhouse. Grade B-

Clutch closed out the show, and they did it with a vengeance. I was pretty worried early on, though... After the first or second song, they lost part of the stage power, and it took a few minutes to fix. Neil Fallon seemed pretty pissed, and I had toughts in the back of my mind of Axl Rose and all of his antics, but the power was restored and things progressed swimmingly. Clutch has some pretty rabid fans, and they were present en masse. Clutch ate it up, and gave it back. The TC was a-rockin'! They played most of the songs I would expect to hear, and quite a few new songs as well. Neil Fallon played guitar on a good quarter of their songs, which I found odd. When I saw them a year ago at Harpos, he only played on one or two songs, and they played two full sets worth of songs. I think most of the songs he played on were the new songs, which might explain it. Overall, they were great. Being twenty feet from the stage makes for a great show when the band is on, and they were. Grade: A

Just about anybody that was alive and listening to the radio in the mid-to-late 80s knows the song "Land of Confusion" by Genesis, and to a lesser degree, knows its video. I remember watching it with my dad, and cracking up because of the funny puppets they used to portray all of the people in the video. The funniest had to be the Pete Townsend puppet. (Well, I think it's Pete Townsend.) It's one of the few videos that's ever stood out in my mind as being really cool while staying on topic with the subject matter being discussed in the song. Here's the video in case you've forgotten, or never seen it.

The reason why I mention all this is because I recently stumbled across the video for a cover of this song by the band Disturbed. I have very mixed feelings regarding them, mainly because they're a Nu-Metal band, and a good portion of their stuff is really simple and boring. Their singer, David Draiman, also has some really annoying vocal tendencies, namely his monkey-grunting sounds that he puts in between lyrical passages. If he were to lose those annoying vocal tendencies, he could be a very good metal vocalist. He's got the requisite angry vocal sound, yet he's very clear in his delivery and has a decent range. The rest of the band also has glimmerings of talent, but they also seem to let it slip away when new-album-time comes around.

My first thought was that Disturbed had no business covering the song, let alone making a video for it. I decided to take a look at it after reading a few positive comments about it, and I have to say that I've shifted my view. After hearing their cover of it, the song actually seems like it was written for their playing style. They have a somewhat herky-jerky rhythm style in a lot of their songs, and the synth bassline of the original was easily converted into a metal riff of that same style. The song retains the same vibe, yet it seems perfectly at home with metal feel instead of an 80's pop feel. They even throw in some vocal harmonies at the end of the song, so maybe there's hope for them after all.

The video for the song is also quite cool. They took the song's concept and applied it to the modern day, where it still fits very well. Here's the video, for your viewing pleasure.

I guess I think it's neat that they covered the song somewhat well, and made a video that's modern and referencing our time, but still holds true to the original song. Am I out to lunch?

This show was billed a bit lower on my list of concerts to see this year because there was only one awesome band on the bill instead of many, but since Shadows Fall is one of my favorite bands, I wasn't about to miss it. Jon made the trip up from Cincinnati for the weekend in order to see the show as well. It's kinda sad too. Jon and his wife are moving to Arizona within the next month, so this is probably the last concert I'll see with him for a looong time. This was also a first in that we went to a show at Harpos and arrived on time, and saw every band that played. Most of the time we show up fashionably late, miss a couple of the opening bands, and enjoy the higher quality bands later on. Well, we saw all six bands that played, for better or worse.

We also lost significant amounts of water through perspiration. It was over 90 degrees outside when we got there, and it was at least 20 degrees hotter inside. It was hotter than a snakes ass in a wagon rut. Combine 100+ degrees of heat plus a bunch of sweaty metalheads, and you get a recipie for a lot of stink. It was the only time I can think of where I can safely say that the shirtless sweaty mosh pit guys were the intelligent ones. They at least allowed their bodies to excise body heat in a more efficient fashion.

The first band was a local band tacked on before the bands on the bill, and I didn't catch their name. I think it was something involving the word Cold, but I didn't hear it clearly. They were solid and did what they did pretty well, although they could totally benefit from a second guitarist to lay down some leads. Their guitarist had some good rhythim chops, but their sound would have been bolstered with another guitarist. I can't say much though - I'm not up there playing. Grade: B-

The first of the billed bands was Still Remains. Interestingly enough, they're based out of Grand Rapids, and perhaps because of that, they seemed to have a pretty good following. It seems well earned too. They jammed. They only had 20-30 minutes of stage time, and they crammed it full... full of three songs. Totally my type of music. They sport dual guitars and a keyboardist, so they have all sorts of room for melody on top of the rhythm. I checked out their page on myspace, and I'm equally impressed with the recorded versions. I'll definitely be on the lookout for their stuff the next time I make a CD run. Grade: B+

The next band up was Bury Your Dead. Ugh. I totally could have done without these guys. I can't say they were totally horrible as far as bands go, but they were 100% not my style. They were serious testosterone-heads, like what you would get if you took Vinnie Paul, Dimebag, and Rex ouf of Pantera during the Far Beyond Driven years, and replaced them with three apes banging on things. All you'd have left is Phil Anselmo with some primates, and Bury Your Dead wasn't much different than that. Their entire catalog seemed to exist on the bottom two heavily down-tuned strings of their instruments, and that's not a good thing. You seriously could have cut the top four strings off each guitar, and the top two off the bass, and there would have been absolutely no difference. They also thought it was pretty cool to spin their guitars around their bodies in unison, hula-hoop-over-one-shoulder style, and it got really old. They did it at least three times per song. If they spent as much time writing songs as they did practicing their guitar-a-hooping, they would be much better. Grade: D+

Next up was Darkest Hour. They were also really good, and deserve a follow-up. Jon and I were both pretty down after Bury Your Dead, so it was good that Darkest Hour saved the day. I don't know if they mandated it, but there was some seriously out-of-place music being played before their set. We heard some Billy Ocean, along with bunch of lame 80's pop stuff that sounds like it came from the Top Gun soundtrack... at a metal show. WTF. Even though we were being inundated with lame music, we happened to see Darkest Hour's lead guitarst warming up, and we knew they wouldn't suck. The man was ripping off a serious solo in that warmup, and he did the same during their set, along with much more total awesomeness. I don't know if I liked them as much as I liked Still Remains, but they're close. Grade: B+

Poison The Well closed out the opening bands. Their set marked a first in my concert viewing experience. I've seen a lot of bands that I've never heard of before. Some I've liked, some I've hated, some I could tolerate, etc. With every other band I've seen, I've been able to key in on whether I like the band or not within a few songs. With Poison The Well, this was not the case. Starting with their first song, and ending with their last, I was completely confused. I couldn't latch on to anything in their music, good or bad. I watched them play, and what I saw indicated that they were skilled players, and what I was hearing should have been good as well, but it wasn't. I stood in a stupor for the whole time they played, and it didn't break until they left the stage. Jon has a strong musical background, and he was actually somewhat angry after hearing them play. He said they were breaking most of the 'rules' that define what makes music good, such as sticking to key signatures, time signatures, and other things. There are ways that you can alternate between key and time signatures, but they still typically follow some standard patterns, because those patterns sound good. These guys sounded like they were just stringing random riffs and song segments together, with no musical 'glue' to properly string them together. What is even more mind boggling to me is that a good portion of the crowd knew the songs, and was singing along word for word. It made me feel as though I was missing something, even though I'm fairly confident I didn't miss much of anything. Grade: F

Shadows Fall closed out the show, and they kicked ass. Their sound is huge on CD, and it's just as huge on stage. They played a somewhat abbreviated set, which was somewhat disappointing, but every song they played was sweet, and they totally nailed them. The show further solidfied my belief that Shadows Fall is one of the most talented in the newer wave of bands in metal, and that they'll be a driving force for a long time. There's absolutely no weakness in their lineup. Every member is grade A, top notch. The highlight of their set for both Jon and I was "A Fire in Babylon." That song is a total jam, and easily one of my favorite SF songs.

Another neat thing is that we got to see Brian Fair's legendary dredlocks. I can't say I've ever been a fan of dreds, but those things were intense. He appears to be around six feet tall, and his dreds hang down to mid-calf at least. It must have taken years and years to grow dreds that long. What's even crazier is that he headbangs with them when he's not singing. There has to be some coordination with the other guys on the stage, because his dreds clear a circle with a 10-foot diameter when he headbangs. They could easily knock an instrument out of someones hands - no joke.

I can't say that their show was top-notch because it was so short, only around 50-60 minutes, but what they did pack in there was awesome. Grade: A

I guess it's just not my year for concerts. First off I have to ask - who starts a concert, which lies squarely in downtown Detroit, at 5:30 PM? I've only once heard of a concert starting before 7 PM on a weekday, and that was Gigantour last year. They had to start early though, as they had 10 bands that had to play, and had Pine Knob's 11PM outdoor-concerts-must-stop policy to contend with. This show, however, did not. Since the show started so early, we completely missed the two openers - Some band I don't know, and Children of Bodom. It sucks that we missed CoB, but I've seen them twice before, so I know what they're like. The other bands I've only seen once at most.

We arrived just in time for Mastodon. I saw them once before at the last Slayer show I attended, and at that point I didn't know any of their stuff. I was well prepared this time. They played a bunch of good songs, and a couple new ones off their new album, "Blood Mountain," which comes out sometime later in the summer. As much as I like their music, I think that the transition to live music isn't always the best for them. Their sound is naturally very thick, raw, and unproduced, and when that's combined with high volume and less-than-optimal acoustics, it just kinda turns into a droning noise that really makes it hard to pick out the subtle nuances that make their sound so unique. I still dig the show they put on though. They're a supremely talented band with a bright future. Grade: A-

Lamb of God was up next. This was the only band in the lineup that I hadn't seen before, so I was hoping for a good show. They didn't disappoint. They played pretty much every song I would have liked to hear. One thing I noticed is that they played noticbly slower than the recorded versions of their songs. It just could be that they wanted to introduce another element of heavyness to spur on the moshers down on the floor - who knows. In any case, they put on a great show with a lot of energy. Good times. Grade A-

Slayer closed out the bill, and were another small source of disappointment in the show. They played a good number of their 'classics,' but they just didn't really seem into the show. They just went through the motions from my perspective, and I could have sworn that I heard a few miscues in a couple songs. Not exactly something you'd expect from a band that's been around as long as they have. One possible source of their lack of enthusiasm very well might have been the crowd itself. We all made the observation that the crowd in general was much more enthusiastic for Lamb of God. A good portion of people were just standing around while Slayer was on stage, and I actually saw a few people sleeping towards the end of the show. Well, they may have been passed out drunk too, who knows. Not everyone shares my no-drinking-at-concerts sentiments. In any case, Slayer wasn't looking great, and neither was the crowd. This may have contributed to something I've only seen once or twice in all of the concerts I've been to - the headlining band not coming out for an encore. I guess I can understand, but it's rather disappointing. Grade: B-

I welcome all comments to my site, even if I don't agree with them. That doesn't mean I won't highlight something I think is hilarious. The following comment was posted to my Nickelback video post last night - a post over two years old.

I dont know wut u guys are thinking Nickelback doesn't suck. U know wut sucks is The people at Portugal aren't very smart..because there are people there who like Nickelback but now thanks to the people who happened to be at the concert ruined it for the people who do like Nickelback.Because now Nickelback wont and shouldn't go back to Portugal.

First and foremost, Nickelback does stink. They've gained fame by releasing the same song in about 10 different forms. It's proven. Second, I have a very hard time listening to points made by someone who can't spell or use something at least resembling proper grammar. I'm too distracted by things like "wut", "U", "at Portugal", and capitalizing "The" in the middle of a sentence.

To address the point though - you're right. Nickelback shouldn't go back to Portugal. They shouldn't go back to Europe at all. They shouldn't go anywhere. There's a reason why people threw rocks at them*. They're a poor musical act. These people of Portugal saw through the crap that too many Americans believe is actually good music. People who were somehow duped into buying their CDs or concert tickets should be asking Nickelback to live up to their namesake - they should be asking for their nickels back.

*Note: As mentioned in the original post, I don't condone throwing rocks at anyone, for any reason. It hurts.

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